Back in April, when Adriana and I visited the Bay area, we did a lunchtime talk about the Mine! project at Google. Here is the second part; apologies for the delay in posting it, there were more slides to sync audio against, in my half.
- Author: alecm
- Published: Jul 2nd, 2009
- Category: Uncategorized
- Comments: 6

ProjectVRM Blog » Gain of Facebook
on Jul 4th, 2009
@ 2:30 pm:
[...] take time, and there are a number of projects underway. Check out The Mine! Project, including Alec Muffett’s latest — his slides from a recent Google Tech Talk. Check out what Iain Henderson says about his work with VPI (volunteered personal information) and [...]
Dave Walker
on Jul 4th, 2009
@ 8:00 pm:
“Information intermediaries” == “one of the advertised ‘Problems’, ’solved’ by a ‘National ID Card’”.
Therefore, It Simply Can’t Work.
“Your address is on your website and under your control”, *unless* some intermediary between your website and the folk who want to know your details, have cached a copy and somehow fail (whether by malice or incompetence) to notice the fact that you’ve updated your details. Your accountability / audit argument works in this context, though.
FWIW, this sounds like an interesting semi-parallel near-equivalent to my Cloud design axioms. Therefore, I think we’re both on the same interesting path, in fairly different contexts.
Dave Walker
on Jul 4th, 2009
@ 8:03 pm:
Oh, and tags are *bad*, because there’s no centralised dictionary of them, or even a consistent syntax for them.
alecm
on Jul 5th, 2009
@ 10:38 am:
No argument about ID-cards being bad from me, but regards:
>Oh, and tags are *bad*, because there’s no centralised dictionary of them, or even a consistent syntax for them.
And why is that *bad*?
You’ve seen the chaos os someof our colleague’s desks… it’s not a problem for *them* and (in a Mine even moreso than an office desk) being a personal workspace it’s not exposed to anyone else — so I don’t see the issue.
A Tagsonomy (sic) is for the user to choose and manage on their own, and entirely a matter of self-discipline.
dropsafe : The Mine! Project - Google Tech Talk Videos #themineproject #vrm
on Jul 10th, 2009
@ 5:41 am:
[...] first video, Adriana deals with the user perspective of the Mine, and why it is being created; the second video is me reviewing the technical goals and talking about the [...]
Dhruv
on Jan 20th, 2010
@ 8:56 am:
Interesting concept! Very cool.
However, I have a view on the existence of multi-national corps to manage this. The value add that these corps bring to the table is simplicity for the layman. And potentially, advanced infrastructure for security in this case.
I can see myself using Mine. But I can’t see some of my non-techie friends using it. Hence, there is a need. And when there is a need, there is a corporation.